FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONAREADERS' FORUM
Reaction to... TiM’s General Coverage of Global Affairs
(state) - Your Life May Depend on Knowing the TiM Truths
Sep. 30 - We received a copy of the following message that a TiM
reader from the state of Washington, John Prukop, sent to his list - Citizens for a Constitutional Washington (state), enclosing the TiM web
For those of you who are tired of the lying, controlled media in this, the
Land of the Free and Home of he Brave... soon to become the Land of the
FEE and Home of the Slave... you owe it to yourself to click on the
following website, and read some hard hitting truth about what's really
going on in the world, in places like Serbia and elsewhere.
you get to this website (www.truthinmedia.org),
be sure and look down the left side menu and click on "New World
Order". This will explain to you what was meant by George Bush in
1990, when he said that out of the Persian Gulf conflict there would
emerge a "New World Order".
NEED to know what it is. Your life may depend on knowing these truths.”
/s/ John R. Prukop/CCW
Some reactions to... Russia
in Cahoots with New Word Order
- I Remain Optimistic Because the Only Other Option Is Suicide
BELGRADE, Oct. 8 - We received the following letter from a TiM reader in Belgrade, who asked to be identified only by his initials - M.L., but whose full identity is known to TiM:
Sir, I'd like to express my views of the events in Belgrade and Serbia
over the past couple of days, as well as my reactions to some of your
articles. I spoke last night to some of my friends who participated in the
events. They told me that a
great many demonstrators, especially those coming from outside Belgrade,
were armed! One of the DOS leaders admitted that they wouldn't come back
unless they achieve their goal, no matter what the cost (in human lives).
kept silent throughout the night. It is obvious that anything I say would
create a chorus of hysterical disapproval. Any common sense had left their
heads long since. I imagine you experienced the same when you warned about
Milosevic 10 years ago.
for your remark that quislings waste no time, get a load of this: I had
just heard on TV that Zoran Djindjic said in an interview to a Zagreb(!!!)
weekly "Nacional" that
there will be no more Yugoslavia, but an alliance of states of Serbia and
Montenegro with a common foreign policy.
And that there would be no more federal President, Parliament or
I wonder what Mr. Kostunica has to say about that?
about TV, since the "liberation" of the media, they have been
none short of disastrous. Reactions from Clinton, Blair, Chirac on the
"democratic changes", greetings from Zagreb, Sarajevo... O,
would like to reply to Mr. Alverson, who I truly believe is a dear friend
of my people but has obviously fallen under this hysteria (see (see
American at the Serb “Revolution”): He compared this to 96/97 protests. It is, to say the least,
inappropriate. In 96/97, the streets were inhabited by people wanting
democracy and freedom. This October, it was a mob out for blood (just go
and see the movie "Gladiator," and see if there is any
difference between the mob in the Coliseum and that in Belgrade).
say we will never forget the spring of 1999, Mr.Alverson. Well, I'm afraid
some already have. And
judging by who has taken over the media, in time a great many will.
spite of everything I still remain optimistic simply because I have to.
The only other option is suicide.”
M.L., Belgrade, Serbia
- There Is No “West,” And There Is No “Russia” Today
BAKU, Azerbaijan, Oct. 9 - We received the following letter from Basile Kotschoubey, a Russian TiM reader who is currently in Azerbaijan:
Friends, do not forget that "Russia" is already
"western", in the sense that she has been overwhelmed by
atheistic materialistic idealism and government over the past 80 years.
The present leaders, from Lenin, Trotsky to Gorby to Putin ARE of just
such a mentality.
with them on top, or with NATO on top ... what's the difference? At least
the NATO guys allow private property, and make Mercedes cars rather than
Ladas, and pay wages. In fact, they'd probably run Russia better than
would Putin. Those who hang on to Putin’s and Milosevic’s as so-called
"nationalists," or "patriots," are in fact scared of
their own culture, or personal lack of it, rather.
should have such a degree of confidence in their culture, in their
religion, that even if the entire Kremlin was occupied by Germans, the
people would still remain Russian. Not only that, those in the Kremlin
would themselves become Russian, and Orthodox after a generation or two.
The only thing to fear is persecution of religion, and even that mustn't
think you should start becoming much more precise in your choice of
vocabulary. There is no "West" and there is no
Basile Kotschoubey, Kazakhstan
- Give Kostunica a Chance
AUSTRALIA, Oct. 9 - We received the following letter from Tony T., a TiM reader in Australia:
Bob, I enjoy reading your columns, and although I usually tend to agree
with you most of the time. But
I feel you are being a bit unfair towards the new YU president.
can understand your anger and frustration at the events in Serbia, however
what was the alternative ? A
few more years of Milosevic rule and pretend that he is a genuine
nationalist? Would that have resulted in an union with Russia and
Bjelorussia ? I seriously doubt it.
don't think such a union is possible at this time, no matter who is
president of Yugoslavia.
not? Because Russia does not
want it. By having a formal union or treaty it obliges them too much. In
case of "trouble", they would really have to do something,
instead of hiding behind the UN, empty words, empty threats and so on.
realistically Russia is no shape or mood to start a major war over Serbia
even if it could do it. Today’s Russia does not have the military muscle
of the USSR (most crucially the logistics to fight in the Balkans).
I don't think you fully appreciate the military capability needed
to undertake such an operation.
believe that Kostunica is a true patriot and will do his best to protect
Serbian interests in unfavorable strategic circumstances.
It's way to early to judge him and only time will tell who was
Tony T., Australia
- Give TiM’s Voice to People of Yugoslavia Who Resist Globalist
SWEDEN, Oct. 9 - We received the following letter from Lennart Palm, a TiM reader in Sweden:
Bob! Now media in our countries are triumphing in hypocrisy and
onesidedness again. Just as during the bombings.
a news anchor here said on TV last Thursday (Oct. 5): "And the most
fantastic thing about it all, the Serbs made this change all by
themselves, without any foreign pressure what so ever"!
people who believe in a multipolar world with self-governing democratic
national states working together in peace, and all kind of imperialism
abolished, it is now important not to give in. We should not even be sure
Yugoslavia unavoidably will be taken over by the NWO as you seem to do.
has been a valiant fighter for peace and independence against fascist
occupation and Stalinist blackmail and led the non-aligned movement for
many years during the cold war.
must go on revealing the lies about what happened in Yugoslavia from the
beginning of the 90-ties. But now also try to unmask the gangster methods
that were used by the West to make this outcome of the elections.
I think TiM has an important role to play: give us true information about
what is happening in Yugoslavia, as we certainly will see a news blackout
the coming months - the NWO propaganda will try to take over all
information from FRY.
all your contacts you could give us much info to use in the fight against
the upcoming NWO propaganda. Give
voice to people from Yugoslavia who resist the globalist invasion!”
Lennart Palm, G÷teborg, Sweden
CALIFORNIA - Wouldn’t It Be Great for Serbia to Become a Part of NATO
and the EU?
CALIFORNIA, Oct. 6 - We received the following letter from Bojan Drobnjakovic, a TiM reader from California.:
must deeply and regretfully disagree with you. You can say whatever you
want, but the will of the people is far more powerful than any other
instrument of diplomacy. My
relatives back in Serbia have been fighting 10 years for change and
finally it has arrived. I
cannot support a man (Milosevic) who sent us to war four times, and lost
every single time.
so what if Kostunica received money from the Wes?. The money must come from somewhere. The people of Serbia have a different view than the one you
envision. People of Serbia
want work and it does not matter who their boss is as long as they are not
could sort of see what you are getting at about the New World Order, but
wouldn't it be great for Serbia one day to become a part of NATO and the
EU? I think we need to make
friends with the West and not enemies. I do not want to see one million
Chinese in the streets of Belgrade, if you know what I mean.”
Bojan Drobnjakovic (state unknown)
- Another World Powers Deal, Like Poland’s Partition 200 Years Ago
ZAKOPANE, Poland Oct. 6 - We received the following letter from Marek Glogoczowski, a TiM reader from Poland. He starts his letter with a quote from our subject TiM Bulletin, and goes on to comment about it:
Oct. 6… In fact, they lead one to suspect that the entire
“revolution” was carefully (and masterfully!) staged by invisible
joined hands of both Russia and the West, and with an open or tacit
cooperation by the Milosevic regime…”
agree. Everything in last few months (including the "Kursk"
accident) is looking this way. The "New Russia" was invited to
the "international feast" of partition of Yugoslavia, exactly in
the same way as Austria and Prussia were invited to participate in the
partition of Poland about 200 yrs ago, during the creation of OWO (Old
World Order, at the Congress of Vienna).”
Marek Glogoczowski, Zakopane, Poland
ASIA - Jumping to Conclusions
SOUTHEAST ASIA, Oct. 9 - We received the following letter from Karl Eriksson, a TiM reader from Sweden who is presently in Southeast Asia:
Editor, I honestly believe that you are jumping to conclusions. Kostunica
hates US/NATO I have read and he is quoted as saying it last year...”
To which we replied, interjecting the following comment:
right there! You've just said
the key words: "last year."
People change. Kostunica
has been a personal friend of mine for many years.
He has been saying things like that for years, not just last year. But once he jumped into bed with the bought and paid-for
western whores in Serbia, it makes no difference what he says.
For, "he who pays the piper calls the tune."
And now, continuing with Mr. Eriksson’s letter:
Der Spigel (Kostunica said), "NATO has committed genocide against the
Serbian people for which they will one day be held accountable" (not
the exact quote, I cant remember, but very close to this and to this
the Russians and Serbs are trying to inflame existing disagreements within
the group of major imperialist powers. Reading about Kostunica’s first
comment on his immediate goals, it is to normalize Yugoslavia’s
relationship with Europe, work on the economy, and something about getting
speaking with Serbs, they seemed to believe that if they didn't take the
course of action they did, the Serbs were all going to die. It would take
Russia too long to be able to save them, and perhaps more passive
resistance would be better anyway.
not saying I’m right, and you are wrong at all.
I’m just saying that it is very possible you are jumping to
conclusions. The general consensus among Serbs I have been in contact with
is that this is their victory over US/NATO.”
TiM Ed.: “General consensus?” Sounds like another dirty word in Serbia these days - “democracy.” Oops… not among the ostriches, of course. They thirst such “democracy.”
- You Sound Demoralized
AUSTRALIA, Oct. 7 - We received the following letter from a TiM reader in Western Australia who wishes to remain anonymous, but whose identity is known to TiM:
Bob, you write…”As a result, we have now redrawn our geopolitical map
of Europe, originally created in January 1999 (i.e., before the NATO
bombing - see "New Iron Curtain over Europe," 1999)…”
most recent article about Yugoslavia, and the so-called revolution, you
sound a little bit demoralized or even depressed, Bob!”
To which the TiM editor replied:
then you don't know me very well. I
am the type of a person who never gives up; whom the enemy has to kill in
order to shut him up. And
even then; even from my grave, my articles and speeches that are now
circling the ether would still haunt the enemy.
Until God’s truth and liberty are victorious.
With or without me.
paragraph you quoted above is just realism.
Everything seems happening according to the script we outlined in
our early September "Red October" article (see Toward
Another "Red October" ).
So why would I be demoralized or depressed? Thanks for your
Some reactions to... Serb
"Ostrich Revolution" Was Anything But Spontaneous
YORK - Just Tremendous Work, As Always!
NEW YORK, Oct. 13 - We received the following letter from Anne Williamson, a New York-based author and a former Moscow correspondent for the Wall Street Journal and other American press, whose name should be familiar to TiM readers from her insightful reports about the Russian “reforms” (see
Bob! I can't tell you how much I'm relying on TiM these hectic days to
keep up with all the complex and sickening developments in Belgrade! Burning the ballots, NATO MRE’s, suitcases of cash - simply
nauseating. But, it's always
a relief to spot TiM bulletins in my email, and know I'll soon be "up
to snuff". Just
tremendous work you're doing - as always!”
Anne Williamson, New York
- Kostunica Is Nothing But a Front for Djindjic
WASHINGTON, DC, Oct.
14 - We received the following letter from Daniel McAdams, an American
who has spent a considerable time in the Balkans as a monitor of the
various elections (as member of the British Helsinki Group).
McAdams is now based in Washington, DC, where he works as an
analyst for an NGO that deals with security policy issues:
Bob: Your old friend Daniel McAdams here. I am so pleased to see that you
have seen through Madeleine's "Demo-farce" in Yugoslavia. Reason
should be enough to lead Yugo-watchers to conclude that (Vojislav)
Kostunica -- honorable as he no doubt may be -- is nothing more than a
front for (Zoran) Djindjic and OUR $77 million.
you may know, there is a virtual war among Yugo-watchers who otherwise
disagreed with NATO bombing. Half
of them are as schoolgirls that the "opposition" replaced
Milosevic. The other part -- in which I am most certainly included --
seeing Yugo events for what they are: a victory for Washington and the end
of independence for Yugoslavia.
is clear that Kostunica is a front in the same vein as was Demirchyan in
Armenia (fortunately the Armenians said "no thank you " to
Madeleine's new world order) and Dzurinda is currently in Slovakia. The
list goes on, but I will leave it at that.
is nothing new, I have seen it throughout Central and Eastern Europe in my
travels with the British Helsinki Group: to the communists currently
masquerading as "the West", democracy means you put in power who
we say, or we kill you.
different than the glorious days of Suslov and Mikoyan? Ah, wonderful
have my great respect and have had for some time. Glad to see you on the
right side on this crucial issue.”
Daniel McAdams, Washington, DC
- Beliefs of Czar Lazar’s Time Are Outdated
ILLINOIS, Oct. 12 - We received the following letter from Veljko Miljus, a TiM reader from Illinois:
TIM: I believe that Serbia has finally gotten rid of the worst government
ever. Consequently, it is
only fair to allow the new government to demonstrate who they are.
Please, contain your opinions to facts, logic and civilized way of
expression, no matter who or what the other guy is.”
To which the TiM editor replied:
for your feedback. Wish you
would offer such advice to the Djindjic "brown shirts" (not my
expression; it is a term being used by many TiM readers in Serbia who have
written to us about the travesties they are committing).
we try to do is report and analyze the whole truth. Just as we did during the NATO bombing, or since then.
Get used to it. Sometimes it will be the truth you won't like. But it will
always be the unadulterated truth. If
that upsets you too much, let us know and we'll be happy to remove you
from the list.”
To which Veljko Miljus replied (slightly abridged):
TIM: I do not think you got
it. I am a Serbian patriot
who has probably given more time and personal resources
to the Serbian humanitarian and political cause since 1990 than any
other single Serb in Diaspora. I
believe that you are hurting for Serbia and Serbian people as much as I,
and that you think your way of expressing the truth is the right way.
However, it is not.
effective and helpful in the right place, and with the right people, one
must do it differently from the doings of Milosevic, Seselj and yours
truly, Bob Djurdjevic. The only unadulterated truth is that the Serbian
people and what remains of their country are in worst economic, cultural,
spiritual and political position ever.
as I said, "Serbia has finally gotten rid of the worst government
ever. Consequently it is only
fair to allow the new government to demonstrate who they are." The new government may not be much better than that of
Milosevic, but it is impossible for any new government to be worse or even
as the expressions used by TiM readers in Serbia, you should not hang onto
their wisdom because how wise we all Serbs have been in this century has
been clearly demonstrated, especially in the last 10 years.
I am not saying this because I dislike the Serbs.
I am a Serb. How can one dislike himself? I am saying it because I a sick and tired of our own
time for every Serb to wake up and joint the reality because the reality
on this earth is the only one we got.
It is time for proven atheists to stop misleading us that we are
Heavenly People (Nebeski Narod). We
are not. We are more corrupt
than average. We are less
religious than average, etc. The beliefs of Car Lazar's time are outdated.
So you get used to it and start being practical for the benefit of
the Serbian cause.”
Veljko Miljus, Illinois
- TiM: An Oasis of Common Sense
BELGRADE, Oct. 12 - We received the following letter from Aleksandar Radulovic, a TiM reader from Serbia, evidently a Belgrade student who has not fallen under the NWO spell:
Mr. Djurdjevic, First, I would like to express my admiration on your
persistency in doing such an honorable and humane work.
letter is an attempt to communicate with someone who understands the
situation we're currently in. Trust me, it's very, very hard to find such
a person here. Let me give you an example.
colleagues-students, who should be open-minded and progressive, keep
telling me that I should "enjoy the freedom we've just obtained"
and stay calm!
euphoria has overwhelmed this country.
People are drunk on “freedom", and don't understand a single
part of what has happened to us. We, with both feet on the ground, are
going through the toughest moments of our lives. The feeling of final and
complete "freedom" seduced the nation, so no one can see what is
happening before their eyes.
first thing done by new "democratic" authority was that to
invaded Federal Customs Department, the National Bank and the other
institutions involved in money market in Yugoslavia. Mind you, the new
Federal Government hadn't been formed yet, and those things are in their
Mark exchange rate was knocked down by more than half. This is glorified
in all media (naturally, totally controlled by the new
"democrats", provisionally barring YU info. channel) as a
tremendous success. This exchange rate reduction was not followed by a
correponding price reduction.
foreign goods are cheaper now, but only when you pay in Dinars.
Domestic goods have the same price, or at most cheaper for 10%.
Isn't this the first step towards elimination of domestic goods from the
discrepancy with the exchange rate in Montenegro (1 DM = 42 Dinars,
officially) is a bit odd. Can this be interpreted as a beginning of
introduction of German currency as our national one?
like to applaud your answer to a TiM reader from Belgrade (the one who
asked you why Kostunica is your ex-friend). Unfortunately, the majority
here think the same way: "Kostunica talks wise".
I agree, he talks wisely, but what do Djindjic & Co. do? And as for
the critics such as that reader from Igalo, I would suggest to him to
watch Montenegrin Milo's TV a bit less, and to look around and to see what
is happening in the once used-to-be-heroic Montenegro.
Bob, is there any hope for us? According to your last comments, I can't
see a single ray of light, but... Can something stop this rapid decline?
Can we expect a soon breakup of DOS coalition (which doesn't seem possible
to me in near future)? What if the West finishes its job here? Is then any
chance for us to get out, no matter the price?
me that my heart is tearing apart these moments, and the most tragic thing
is that people celebrate "victory". This makes me very restless
and disappointed because I considered our people wiser and more cautious.
But we appear to be too single-minded and too exclusive.
Belarus next? Should we expect similar events there? If it happens, I
don't know which European country I could escape to - which wouldn't be
under the claws of the Great beast (or should I say: where Uncle Sam
couldn't find me).
also like to ask you a question I've been doubtful about for some time:
What is a position (I avoid to say "role") of our Orthodox
church (or our priesthood) since it supported Kostunica? I cannot
understand such attitude considering who is backing Kostunica and that he
is supported by the West. And we know what are the Western intentions
towards our Orthodox Christianity.
seems that nothing else I can do, but to hope the future will show that
you were wrong, and that I was a paranoid fool that trusted people like
you. Until that happens, I will support you and your work and read TiM as
an oasis of common sense.”
TiM Ed.: As to
this reader’s question regarding the Serbian
Orthodox Church’s unusual Serbian Orthodox Church’s endorsement of one
political candidate, we replied that we were disappointed with it.
Not only because it was done before the vote count was known.
But because the Church decided to meddle in politics and take sides
in the elections.
This is not about
Kostunica. This writer would
have reacted the same if they had endorsed Karadjordje (the man who led
the Serbian 1804 uprising and the subsequent liberation from the Turks).
My disappointment was due the principle the Patriarch and the Holy
Synod violated - that the Church ought to be the father and mother to all
Serbs regardless of their political affiliations.
After all, even
the DOS polls acknowledge that over 40% of the Serb electorate voted for
Milosevic or other non-DOS candidates.
These people have now been alienated by the Church.
Which is why we are afraid that the Serbian Orthodox Church’s
reputation and credibility will be seriously eroded as a result of this
- Free, Underground Press?
11 - We received
the following letter from Ian Campbell, a TiM reader from Australia:
good that we have a free, underground press operating.
We now are subject to the media which is the capitalist version of
the Soviet Union. So
Ian Campbell, Australia
To which the TiM editor replied:
for your support, Ian. Just a
point of clarification... We consider ourselves to be VERY visible and
HIGHLY ABOVE ground media. J
- TiM is read in over 80 countries around the world every month, and in
nearly all U.S. states.”
(state unknown) - Love Your Site! We Need You…
U.S. (state unknown), Oct. 11 - We received the following letter from Mrs. Pat Scott , a TiM reader from the U.S.:
Truth in the Media: Love your site! It is so refreshing to get the TRUTH
and not a newsman's biased report. How
I wish I had the tools to be employed by your organization.
THANKS for you excellent coverage and honesty in the news. We need
wish to) thank you for the stirring and truthful article about what
Clinton and his minions have done in Serbia. After reading it I was ready
to go to battle for them. Our country has lost all decency with the rotten
leadership of Clinton, a wicked and evil man.
MAYBE history will finally give us the truth about him. Your article was
excellent and I can only be ashamed of our government that constantly
chooses the WRONG side. What can you expect of supporters of abortion and
RU 46 and all the other evils they back? If they kill babies with no
conscience then why should they stop at anything?
become an evil empire too, yet we mistakenly call it a democracy. I wonder when the tide will return and if it is going to take
God's intervention? God have mercy on us.”
Mrs. Pat Scott (state unknown)
- You’ve Gone a Bit Crazy!
SERBIA, Oct. 13 -
We received the following comment from Charles Alverson, a former Wall
Street Journal reporter, an American married to a Serb woman whose piece
about his firsthand experiences during the Oct. 5 “revolution”
you’ve had a chance to read in a recent TiM Bulletin (see An
American at the Serb “Revolution”):
I think you have been going a bit crazy with your anti-Kostunica stance.
Read this. Charles.”
What Mr. Alverson enclosed was the following post :
Oktober 13, 2000 16:58 Subject: Kostunica
ROCKFORD INSTITUTE http://www.rockfordinstitute.org
AND THE WEST: THE ROAD AHEAD
Dr.Vojislav Kostunica […]
[to read it in its entirety,
click on: http://www.rockfordinstitute.org/NewsST101000.htm
We replied to Mr. Alverson
already have, Charles. And
this is what I wrote about it two days ago to Srdja Trifkovic, who posted
this at the Rockford Institute site:
Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:13:10 -0700
Serge Trifkovic <STrif@compuserve.com>
TiM Publisher <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Fwd: Re: SERBS AND THE WEST: THE ROAD AHEAD
Srdja. When did Voja actually
write this? I don't see any
references in his piece to current events, so my hunch is it might have
been before the elections? Or
maybe even before he had become a DOS candidate?
Or maybe even before that, when he was still the "good old
so, why did you not publish the dateline, instead of making it seem as if
it was written on Oct. 10, 2000? Also,
why is there a Rockford Institute copyright shown at your web site, if
Kostunica did indeed write this - whenever he may have done it?
got a reply (even though I know Trifkovic personally very well).
think I am crazy? Bob Dj.
TiM Ed.: Now, it
has been more than five days since we posed those questions to Srdja
Trifkovic. We have still not
received a reply, even though we’ve received other mail from him.
We’ll let the TiM readers draw their own conclusions about why
- What Will Happen to These “Revolutionaries” When They Are No
OTTAWA, Oct. 13 -
We received the following letter from Geoffrey Wasteneys, a TiM reader
on this Bulletin, but it makes sorry reading.”
To which we replied:
And I agree. But as George Burns (?) once said, "I don't aim to
please; I just aim." To
which I can add, "I just aim for the truth".”
Mr. Wasteneys continues with his comments about the
“revolution” and the looting in Belgrade:
on earth is going on? You can't run a nation this way? I read your report
on the "staged" revolution with great interest and concern.
recall that Hitler rose to power by providing brown shirts, arm bands and
soup kitchens to the three million or so unemployed German men. He got the
money from the industrialists who were afraid of the Communists.
he became Chancellor, Hitler didn't need the SA anymore, but Roehm, who
was their leader, wanted them taken into the army. The result was the
famous Putsch (coup) in which many hundreds, including Roehm, were shot.
the West we were told that Hitler had acted because Roehm was in a nest of
homosexuals, and that Hitler's action "was a good thing".
will happen to these "revolutionaries" when they are no longer
my impression is that the US peacekeepers in Kosovo are running out of
patience with the Albanians. The honeymoon is almost over. But Camp,
Bondsteel is a permanent establishment. They will never see the end of the
US: like Guantanamo in Cuba.”
Geoffrey Wasteneys, Ottawa, Canada
TiM Ed: Indeed. A very good analogy. And if the German Bundeswehr does set up shop in Serbia, they will probably do it in the North (Vojvodina), while the Brits take over Montenegro. Sooner or later the Serbs will wish the Ottomans were back. J L (I've made two opposite faces because this is truly black humor for any Serb who VOTED for this!).
Kostunica Is a Western Pet, Just Like Yeltsin and Others
SPAIN, Oct. 13 -
We received the following letter from a TiM reader in Spain who goes by
the name “Arga:”
maybe your polls are not reliable, but you are telling very ugly things
about Kostunica... Brave!
Saturday (Oct. 14), Kostunica will meet in Biarritz with the 15 EU
leaders: Did he not say he wouldn’t accept western aid? He is a western
with you... this ‘evolution’has been set-up. Much like every other
revolution in Eastern Europe in the last few years.
remember Yeltsin’s revolution? Do
you remember the picture of "Yeltsin against the tanks"?
It was clear that those tanks were set up as a prop - to obey Yeltsin.
Otherwise, they would have crushed him like a worm (he is a worm,
in fact... a drunken worm).
later, do you remember Yeltsin bombarding the Russian parliament? How
democratic!!! (TiM Ed.: see “Yeltsin’s
Red October”, a 1998 TiM Bulletin).
western countries backed Yeltsin!!! Hahaha!! How coherent!!! They will
support their pet Yeltsin at any cost!!
remember Yeltsin’s maneouvre to steal General Lebed’s votes (TiM
Ed.: in the 1996 elections) and thus get the
majority against the communists? How democratic again!!!
remember the "democratic" Romanian revolution? They killed the
Ceausescu couple without a proper trial. They were assassins!!!
new "democratic" president, Petre Roman, got the blessings of
the western leaders. And the new "democratic system"
"won’t let the people starve again"... But when you see the
change now on TV... and you see the homeless children of Bucharest,
wandering by the streets, you realize the kind of change that has really
remember the former DDR president? Eric Honeker? He spent the rest of his
life in prison and he was terminally ill!!!! He had cancer... and he died
from that illness. Honeker
was another victim of the western bulldozer that runs over anyone, for the
sake of "democracy and human rights".”
- EU Now Uses Bribes, Not Bombs
BELGRADE, Serbia., Oct. 15 - We received the following letter from Elizabeth Chung, a (foreign) student of Serbian history who has spent the last three years in Serbia:
Bob, I completely agree with you about the need to get the anarchy under
control. I will tell you that
it is not as bad as I expected. I
am a student of history, Serbian History to be exact.
The professors back home that I exchange e-mail with, as well as
myself, expected much worse chaos. However,
there are problems. For
example, the old government confiscated many transmitters and a great deal
of television equipment from independent stations.
Now people want those things back, but when they go to the local
state television station, they find that their old equipment is no longer
there (probably moved to another city), so they are debating whether to
take what they find or how to compensate themselves?
Cacak (pronounced “Chachak”) is consulting an attorney about equipment
they found there which is not theirs and what they should do, plus
debating the legal and moral questions at this time.
They have the equipment but they are not sure whether they are
entitled to it or not.
fear that the old guard is going to make as much use as possible out of
these incidents. I was
referring to the game last night. I
saw what happened on television and it was about anger.
There is so much anger under the surface that is now coming out.
We have two situations here in my opinion. First there is the internal situation, stemming from the
trail of corruption from the old government.
The new government is trying to manage the chaos of this. Secondly, there is the external situation of trying to locate
the position Yugoslavia will take as the country is thrust out of
isolation. This creates
terrible pressure on the whole infrastructure, which has not been this
delicate perhaps since King Alexander Obrenovic and his wife exited via
window (TiM Ed.: Meaning, they were assassinated by a military coup
matters is euphoria from most of the really good citizens who do not
realize that a new ordeal is just beginning.
The Serbs have a very promising but very fragile new republic on
their hands. I can only hope
and pray that it all works out for the best.
The funds that are pouring in are so far without strings, at least
the ones I have read about, but I am also afraid that this influx of money
is going to overwhelm people and that much of it is going to be wasted in
the chaos. After three years here, for the first time I find myself
wishing that events could just slow down.
We waited and prayed that something would happen, but now we are
moving at warp speed or something.”
Elizabeth Chung, Belgrade, Serbia
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EU Now Uses Bribes, Not Bombs
U.K., Oct. 15 - We received the following letter from William Spring, a TiM reader from the U.K. and director of the British-based Christians Against Nato Aggression (CANA) organization:
Biarritz gathering of political deadbeats, loathed leaders of the new
Europe, got a much needed boost by the appearance in their midst of the
representative of a country they had most recently bombed.
insensitive to the highest degree for Dr. Vojislav Kostunica to field
questions about the possibility of handing over Mr. Slobodan Milosevic to
Carla del Ponte's so called Court@TheHague, without at the same time
referring to the indictments issued by the Serbian Public Prosecutor's
Office of 29th August 2000 against NATO leaders (TiM Ed.:
Funds Serb Opposition Efforts and other Balkans stories, Item 11). Nor
to the application made by the Yugoslav Government to the International
Court@The Hague for condemnation of the NATO aggression. Nor to the
proceedings of the Association for Legal Theory & Practice @ Novi Sad
last year, where NATO was condemned by internationally eminent lawyers.
Nor to the many other initiatives (across Europe) aimed at getting
NATO into the dock.
with the enemies of Yugoslavia gathered in conclave, Kostuncia should not
have given them absolution quite so readily.
Perhaps he had to go and say what he said, as his paymasters wanted
their reward. Still it gives
a bad impression for Dr. Kostunica to be so pally (palsy) with the EU.
Couldn't he have insisted at least upon one expression of regret by
someone at the Conference, as a pre condition for attending?
makes the world go round. But the Serbs should have held out for a higher
the UK Government have used the ú1 billion ($1.8 billion),
it had spent on the NATO bombing, for less destructive activities?
If the EU had dispersed its funds earlier, most people in Belgrade
by now would be driving Mercedes, and casualties and deaths would have
Willian Spring, U.K.
- Kostunica: A Chameleon
FLORIDA, Oct. 15 - We received the following letter from Mladen Vranjican, a TiM reader from Florida:
September 24 Yugoslav elections were for a largely ceremonial post of the
federal head of state and for a federal assembly (legislature). In
countries with respect for the rule of law, the outgoging president is
usually allowed (actually obliged) to finish the term in office. Instead,
Vojislav Kostunica and his thugs forced not just Milosevic to concede that
he lost the election (for the NEXT term), but extorted his resignation by
threats of further mob violence, thereby making all Kostunica's
pronouncements for the respect of the rule of law, democratic ideals,
blah, blah, blah… a farce!
his thugs continued to dismantle the state, not federal, elected and
appointed institutions as if the loss of an election on a federal level
somehow affects the existing elected terms of the current state
legislature, etc.! This unthinkable thuggery is happening on Kostunica's
watch -- a man ready to give lip service to the rule of law, democratic
ideals and who happens to be a constitutional layer expert, or so it is
if G.W. Bush wins in November, and then proceeds, using paid thugs, to
fire all the Democratic governors, state legislatures, judges, etc.
And then, using the same mob, forces the sitting president to
resign immediately, and give up his office before January 2001?
And forces new extraordinary elections for state legislatures in
anyone imagine that? Well,
THAT is what the Administration in Washington and their paid DOS thugs in
Serbia are calling "democracy!"
Kostunica meets all the emissaries and accused war criminal elements of
the NATO countries to shake their hands and "kiss and make up,"
while establishing a new brand of abolitionist "democracy,"
trying to return to the values of Serbia 150 years ago, or so he says. Now
that the election is over, his anti-Western rhetoric is slowly subsiding
as he realizes that the trick has worked.
time ago, I asked you if he was naive, stupid or just acting.
And you answered with high degree of certitude that he was just
plain na´ve (see Toward
Another "Red October" ).
I think you read him wrong, as many have as well. I think he was just
also wrote that the road to political success is not for nice guys, since
an honest politician is an oxymoron, and a naive one is food for more
aggressive ones. The fact that Kostunica has not been eaten (yet), must
mean that he is a true politician - neither honest, nor naive.
the Yugoslav election fades ever more into distant history, Kostunica's
election-era statements are ever more morphing into those from whom he
(directly or indirectly) accepted millions of dollars of bribes and is now
accepting political and monetary favors.
and immediately after the elections, Kostunica was adamant that he would
not, that it is indeed unconstitutional to, extradite Milosevic to the
so-called International War Crimes Tribunal for former Yugoslavia (ITCY)
in the Hague. He even made it clear that it was an American-run political
institution, essentially a kangaroo court, bent on persecuting Serbs --
echoing the opinion of many, if not most Serbs -- and that he did not
recognize is as a legitimate court.
now that the ‘demo farce’ is over, and that the opinion of many, if
not most, Serbs doesn't really matter any more, what does Kostunica say to
his Western friends he had chastised so vehemently during his fake
and dined at the EU meeting in Biarritz, France, by the very NATO leaders
who bombed his country - an act Kostunica had called criminal, he changed
his tune on Oct. 15, and accepted an obligation to co-operate with an
institution he had called earlier by its real name - a ‘kangaroo
court’ and Washington’s political tool.
shaking hands with people he had accused of criminal acts against the
Serbian people, and contradicting his own statements from not so long ago,
Kostunica is also changing his tune on another issue: Yugoslavia.
is well known that the current American administration never recognized
"rump" Yugoslavia (Federal Republic of…) as the successor of
the former (Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia). Instead, it was
referred to as Serbia and Montenegro.
of the first things Washington's bell boy and Serbia's No. 1 traitor,
Zoran Djindjic, Kostunica's second in command and -- by many accounts --
the real power behind Kostunica, echoed his master's state of mind when he
suggested that Yugoslavia be dropped as the name for the joint state
between Serbian and Montenegrin republics.
on the other hand, maintained throughout the campaign and shortly
thereafter - while his and his unholy coalition's survival was
questionable - that he would work on strengthening Yugoslavia's
sovereignty and territorial integrity. Not once did he mention anything
about possible changes to the name or status of the country until now.
only two days ago, he said he wasn't opposed to Montenegro's independence.
Some guarantee of the Yugoslav integrity and sovereignty that is! And now,
in the blitz of Biarritz, Kostunica falls in line with his political
commissar, Zoran Djindjic's, and his bosses in Washington, as reported by
the CNN on Oct. 15:
also confirmed that he was ready to drop the name of Yugoslavia and have
the state he led renamed 'Serbia and Montenegro.' "
president of Yugoslavia ready to dissolve the country he was elected to
again, every reason exists to believe, as evidence points to the
inevitable conclusion, that concerted efforts are being made to dissolve
Yugoslavia, reduce and neutralize Serbia (even occupy by German troops!),
and install and maintain a regime there that will work for international
and not national interests. Such a regime has already been established in
Montenegro and in the Bosnian Serb Republic -- much to the delight of its
NWO architects, such as Senator Joseph Biden who has nothing but high
praise for it.
day, new news reports confirm the impression many of us have had - that
Kostunica is not the honest naive fool he was portrayed to be, but a
willing accomplice in the dissolution and destruction of his own country,
which will undoubtedly earn him a special place in the Serb Quisling Hall
of Fame, alongside Zoran Djindjic and his soulmate Biljana Plavsic, of the
Bosnian Serb Republic.”
Mladen Vranjican, Florida
You Were Right about Kostunica!
U.K., Oct. 15 - We received the following letter from Stelios Stylianou, a TiM reader from the U.K.:
Bob, sorry I doubted your story about Kostunica. You were right!!! He's a
sack of bull! What is worse, he wants to change the name of Yugoslavia
into SERBIA-MONTENEGRO because he feels the name has lost its meaning.”
To which we replied:
He wants to do it because that's what Washington has been calling
Yugoslavia "Serbia and Montenegro" ever since 1992, in order to
deny it the succession rights (embassies, money, etc.) to the former
Yugoslavia, while saddling "Serbia and Montenegro" with their
share of the old Yugoslav debt (about $5 billion plus interest compounded
rights of succession and associated debts are also the REAL REASON the
outer sanctions are still in force against Kostunica’s ‘democratic’
Yugoslavia, not his delivery of Milosevic to the Hague, as the western
public has been told by our lamestream media.
The latter is a snow job and a distant secondary issue.”
Mr. Stylianou continues:
worry, NATO may think they have won for now but the war is not over, not
by a long shot. The traitors are in for quite a battle with the Serbian
parliament because is disapproving the fools moves to colonisation of
Yugoslavia. Thus even if the NWO establishes its bases in Yugoslavia it
has to finish the job to rid Russia of the face of the earth which could
bring a possible WWIII. Even if Russia (for now that is!) cast Yugoslavia
into the hands of the EU/NATO she will eventually change her mind about
what she done. They need to tame the bear first for world domination and
they haven't the guts to even try.
Ostriches will have their heads chopped off in time for their treachery!
Stelios Stylianou, U.K.
- Kostunica Is Already a Marked Man
CANADA, Oct. 15 - We received the following letter from Chris Soda, a TiM reader from Canada, who comments about Vojislav Kostunica’s turn about face, after having been wined and dine by the EU heads of state in Biarritz on Oct. 15 (see the Latest News Flash at the TiM front page on the Web):
Bob: which of the following paraphrases can be attributed to Kostunica?
"The ICTY is a political court, not a judicial one; I will
never extradite a Yugoslav to the Hague."
"Extraditing Yugoslavs to the Hague will not be my first
"The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia will co-operate with all
international institutions including the International Criminal Tribunal
for the Former Yugoslavia."
answered 'all of the above', sadly, you are correct.
no one in the mainstream media ran (Bernard) Kouchner's threatened
re-implementation of sanctions, and I doubt any of them will run a story
about an obvious fraud artist in action either.
can see why 'Former Yugoslavia' (in more ways than one) has been on
Kostunica's lips recently. Not
content to sell out his own soul to the highest bidder, he now embarks on
selling out his country's name-and his countrymen-as well.
view, he is already a marked man.
lost its meaning when Kostunica’s guys stormed the Parliament and burnt
the only evidence to support DOS mathematical imagination, i.e. the
is so full of s… It should
be obvious that rather than defend the heroic struggle of Yugoslavia
against NATO, Kostunica prefers historical revisionism.
since he wants to change the name of his country, we should all believe
the mainstreams that call him a 'Serb patriot'; better still, since
'Yugoslavia' no longer exists in his mind, then his 'election win in
Yugoslavia' no longer exists
Kostunica apologists can't see the forest for the trees, I'm afraid.
Germans walk in and make themselves at home, we will see accomplished what
Appendix B (TiM Ed.: of the Rambouillet agreement - Milosevic’s
rejection of which led to NATO’s bombing) could
not - the military occupation of all of Yugoslavia.... excuse me,
Once a Slave, Always a Slave?
U.K., Oct. 9 - We thought the following ominous warning to the Serbs, which we received from M. Harrison, a TiM reader from the U.K., is an appropriate “closing statement’ to what has just transpired in Serbia:
I found this quote relevant to the current situation in Serbia:
Peoples, once accustomed to masters, are not in a condition to do without them. If they attempt to shake off the yoke, they estrange themselves even more from freedom. By mistaking for it an unbridled license to which it is diametrically opposed, they nearly always manage, by their revolutions, to hand themselves over to seducers, who only make their chains heavier than before." (Jean Jacques Rousseau, 1754)
ridding themselves of the tyranny of Milosevic the Serbian people will not
find freedom and liberty. They
have instead placed themselves and the future of their nation in the hands
of an even greater evil - the NWO of the International Community.
have been quite honest in their intentions, but they have been duped and,
like the citizens of the former Stalinist Eastern European nations, will
pay a heavy price for their choice of new masters.
behind closed doors, the NWO vultures are laughing at the Serbian people,
overjoyed that all their intrigue and scheming of the last 10 years has
finally paid off. Over the last few days I've seen Serbs at each other’s
throats, beating each other in the streets; brother turned against
brother. The minions of the NWO revel in their work and the misery they
God help Serbia and God help humanity!”
M. Harrison, U.K.
Some reactions to... South
Globalism Treads, Trash Follows
CAROLINA - A Very Insightful Message!
CHARLOTTE, NC, Sep. 4 - We received the following letter from Frank Adams, a TiM reader from North Carolina:
very insightful message. It reminds me of the Boer War, when the NWO
(headed by Great Britain, at that time) decided that it wanted the South
Africa, and would take it by force. Headed by Cecil Rhodes (yes, of the
Rhodes scholarship fame), the British used a "scorched earth"
policy of burning Boer's farms and putting their women and children in
Boer's fought courageously, using guerilla tactics, almost capturing a
town that Rhodes was holed up in, but eventually fell to the overwhelming
force of the British.
from the United States "most livable city" (per USA TODAY).”
Charlotte, North Carolina
(state) - A Very Insightful Message!
WASHINGTON (state), Sep. 5 - We received the following letter from Gerald Adkins, a TiM reader from Washington (state):
Bob, terrific articles on the mess in South Africa! I love your coverage
of what is really going on in the world, not what the multinational media
conglomerates want me to hear. Thanks
for being there for us.”
Gerald C. Adkins,
AFRICA - The Daily Mail Story Exaggerated
SOUTH AFRICA, Sep. 6 - We received the following letter from Konrad Koornhof, a TiM reader from South Africa:
Bob, I’ve been
reading your articles for some time and find them very informative.
read with surprise, your above article. Being a middle-class, white South
African male, probably classifies me as a previously advantaged
individual, and does not put me in a very advantageous position to find a
job with any big South African company in a hurry.
I believe that SA offers tremendous opportunities for the creative and
innovative individual. I have my own financial services business in a
Northern suburb of Gauteng, and find that the comments of your source.
Daily Mail claims (TiM Ed.:
the source quoted by TiM), are truly exaggerated,
as I have many contacts all over the region and in other parts of the
country, and find that the majority of citizens in business (of all races)
and other spheres of life are working towards getting this country back on
do not believe that all the decisions of the ruling government are
correct, and it is therefore, vital that we create a strong political
opposition in this country to keep those in power in check. What concerns
me more is that we are kept in the dark about what agreements with the
IMF, WTO, the USA, etc. are taking place and how it will affect us. The
last thing we need is to be pulled into a debt-trap like so many other
- South Africa Was Demolished by Anglo-American Establishment
CALIFORNIA, Sep. 6 - We received the following letter from Angie Carlson, a TiM reader from California, who had spent a considerable portion of her life in Africa:
on the largest seam of gold ever discovered, this was once the richest
city in Africa, a gleaming steel-and-glass citadel rising out of the brown
ocean of the Veld, a testament to the economic power (and perhaps the
innate character? of the white community that built it, but also an
example of what can be achieved by hard work and individual
enterprise." (a quote from the TiM Bulletin).
but this is precisely why South Africa was demolished, literally. All the
rules for revolution were employed in that nation in a very short span of
time. These rules of course
include releasing violent prisoners to wreak mayhem and fear, destroying
the judicial system to protect the new status, making depraved the
society, i.e. prostitution, rampant and legalized homosexuality, abortion,
the massive importation of illicit drugs.
Now, crack cocaine, it was just announced this week, has made a
huge entry. And this is why
the Islamic movements have taken hold, are building quite a militia, are
engaged in vigilantism, to protect neighborhoods and interdict drugs,
since the local police are so corrupt and criminal themselves, just like
in Mexico or Colombia, and we see the signs clearly in the cities of the
none of this in South Africa came about because of leftist failures,
though they certainly would have occurred gradually were they solely due
to the inefficient form of Marxist government, no doubt.
However, the downfall of South Africa is by no means whatsoever is
an accident, nor the usurpation of powers by Marxists.
It was all very carefully and systematically planned by the
enemy of liberty, fairness, lawfulness, anything decent, had to devise a
means to rid the solid country of its white, powerful, government, its
established institutions, its hegemony, not only in their nation, but in
Africa as a whole. Just as
they did in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe.
occurred so that the same old enemy of mankind, the international
banksters, would move in and loot its natural wealth at slave labor prices
and with hardly any regulatory agency over them.
Creating the ANC some forty plus years ago, elevating Mandela, then
giving him a huge media splash to create a hero out of him when he was
"eased" out of jail, was a brilliant piece of theater.
The pawns today, Mbeki et al, are pawns, the foolish and greedy
pawns of the day.”
TiM Ed.: Funny how
Ms. Carlson’s story has a familiar ring to it, doesn’t it?
Anybody thinking of Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Russia…. right
reactions to... The
Olympics: A Globalist Fest of Brawn over Brain
Just Another Form of Bread and Circuses
NEW YORK, Sep. 16 - We received the following letter from Jack Johnson, a TiM reader from New York:
congratulations of Clinton to a black athlete, and the rebuke of a white
one, does not surprise me one bit. One of the things I have been seeing in
this New World Order is the constant friction being generated by those in
power to keep people occupied with more mundane things. Keep the races
unequal by providing favoritism to one at the expense of the other.
is just another form of bread and circuses. If the masses of sheeple
aren't preoccupied enough by sports or Hollywood gossip, then create
tension in the classes. Give the blacks preferential treatment.
warfare is the easiest way to keep these poor misguided fools away from
real issues. Phony wars against like the one against Serbian people is
just an escalation of this same principle.”
Jack Johnson, an
American patriot, New York
After All the Fun and Games, Here Come the Bills…
AUSTRALIA, Oct. 6 - We received a copy of the following letter from John Wilson, a reader from Australia, who sent a sobering message to his countrymen about what comes after all the Olympic fun and games are over:
Fellow Australians, The TV news said the Australian dollar was worth
$0.5324 US dollars (TiM
Ed.: Now, it has dropped to $0.5230. Five
months ago, it was about $0.60; a year ago, it was about $0.65 US).
phoned the Reserve Bank of Australia (tel: 02 9551 8111) to ask what was
Australia's foreign debt. They
said they would phone back when they had the figure.
figure for the current "Net Foreign Liabilities" stands at $A
404 billion - which approximately works out at $A 21,263.00 for every man,
woman, child and newborn baby.
Olympic Games were lovely, weren't they?”
TiM Ed.: Montreal
hosted the Olympic Games of 1976. They
were also lovely. Even the
Queen arrived for the opening ceremonies, even though her yacht
“Britannia” didn’t meet Canada’s water pollution standards.
After all the loveliness subsided, the Montreal (and other
Canadian?) citizens kept paying for the Olympic Games debt for years and
reactions to... Colombia:
Deadly Welcome for American President
Fleecing the Recipients of U.S. “Aid”
IOWA, Sep. 3 - We received the following letter from Bill Slawson, a TiM reader from Iowa:
had this thought rolling around for ages, just wanting to come forth:
you make a law against something, selective enforcement is the absolute
result. If some
"sin" is targeted by law and funding, the natural process is for
the enforcement to first target the easy offenders, learning more as they
progress, finally learning how much real profit there is in actually
"controlling" the serious offenders . . . even to the point of
protecting the most protectable: gaining influence, funding and
"aid" is being sent, the flow has already been
the "aid" is milk money arranged for forces with established
conduits for armies that have no allegiance to any "public".
you make a law against something, you are mandating sub-clinical
corruption. For that matter
if you make a law for something, the funding of such will confound the
works. If there's funding for
a fight, soldiers are always available for the worst generals.
If you send arms or other electrifying influences to an area, an
area that already has its own natural balance, then you add to the
"field strength" of the polarizing currents.
It will tend to create stress and eventual fracture of any internal
structure. (Read infrastructure, when contemplating civil machinery)
nothing mysterious or metaphysical about speaking of physics when
referring to natural forces that bear on all systems, even
"civilized" ones. Whether
it's Tokomak or Ladies' Aid: if
you send in sufficient forces, something's going to blow.
All pre-existing balance will restructure around the new developing
could any autonomy or dignified sovereignty resist the influence of 3 or 4
percent extra from an outside force almost instantaneously? Colombia's $30
billion economy, ($9 billion international reserve), will reel from this
sort of influx.
what's probably happening is that the electrons that show up in the
Colombia books will be on a short stop of a round trip ticket, quickly
routed to the pockets of the American/international ledgers almost
immediately. It's an advanced
pick-pocket scheme where the hand-off is quick and brutal; often the final
bagman is a cutout. From the
working man's pocket to the tax man, to the autocrats, to the dumb mules,
around to the perpetrators. And
there's a new "rake" at every transfer.
All the skimming is under the watchful eye of the inventory man --
allowed, but strictly limited and compartmentalized.
seen this happen in Brazil, Indonesia, Korea - - everywhere that resources
are "handled". Having
produced the "field effect", the chase will be on to harness the
wild. Only those at the
switch will know the vectors of the force, and the new poles of the
mechanism. All the buffers and isolators are hired screens.
Everything is natural.”
Bill Slawson, Iowa
Paradoxes of Our Time
OKLAHOMA, Sep. 3 - We received the following comment from a TiM reader, who attributes them to a Columbine high school student. We have no way of verifying that, but regardless of who the author is, we think you will find this interesting reading:
paradox of our time in history is that we have
buildings, but shorter
freeways, but narrower viewpoints;
spend more, but have less;
we buy more, but enjoy it less.
have bigger houses, but smaller families;
conveniences, but less time;
have more degrees, but less sense;
knowledge, but less judgment;
experts, but more problems;
medicine, but less wellness.
have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values.
talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
learned how to make a living, but not a life;
added years to life, but not life to years.
We've been all the way to the moon and back,
have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor.
conquered outer space, but not inner space;
cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul;
split the atom, but not our prejudice.
have higher incomes. But lower morals;
become long on quantity, but short on quality.
are the times of tall men and short character;
profits and shallow relationships.
are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare;
leisure, but less fun;
kinds of food, but less nutrition.
are the days of two incomes, but more divorce;
fancier houses, but broken homes.
is a time when there is much in the show window and nothing in the
time when technology can bring this letter to you,
a time when you can choose either to make a difference,
just hit delete.”
reactions to... Serbia
in Britain: U.K. Gasoline Pumps Run Dry
You Have Hit the Nail on the Head!
OTTAWA, Sep. 17 - We received the following comment from Geoffrey Wasteneys, a TiM reader from Canada:
on an excellent well directed article. You have hit the nail on the head!
There was a Britain, once, that was highly compassionate to those in
distress; that put down the world slave trade almost single-handedly.
was the land where the Wesley's preached moral behavior and saved the
nation from the gin mills. It
is simply a matter of getting the public properly informed.
has presently the worst Government since St John and the Earl of Oxford
ousted Marlborough, betrayed Prince Eugene and The Dutch Republic to Louis
XIV, and earned the title of "Perfidious Albion".
gather, however, that it is the farmers who may unseat Tony Blair. It
couldn't happen to a better guy.”
A Greek Philosopher on God’s Truth
GREECE, Sep. 27 - We received the following comment from Amphiktyon, the pen name for a TiM reader from Greece, who is a philosopher and a writer himself:
TiM Publisher, I would like to make a comment concerning the God's Truth
you are reffering in your e-mails.
greatest physic philosopher of all times, Heracletus from Efesus(ancient
Hellenic Ionia) said about the Genesis of Universe the following:
cosmos (universe) was created neither by gods nor by human beings .IT WAS, IS and WILL BE FOREVER, lighting up or extinguishing
(oscilating) according to the law."
how many wars took place until now for the sake of god.
And even in 2000 ad, this bloodshed is continuing due to the
cosmopolitican religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam)
had followed the Heracletus and other Hellenic physic philosophers
thinkings, surely the world would avoided form the phanaticism, the
dogmatism, the disputes and the destructive wars and now the humanity
would have entered the epoch of civilization.
now that the real democracy and humanism are in stake, we have to revise
our thoughts under the prism of the Ancient Hellenic Values, i.e. "Metron"
(the moderate path), "do not be excessive",
"know Yourself" (self-conscious) , the "center all
man" (Humanism) and of course the respect to the Mother Earth
these values are badly violated at the present time for the material
profit, the super-consumption and power. I think that most of the present
problems and deadlocks have their causes to the present way of
thinking. They would have
been solved if we had introduced the Classic Studies in our educational
you very much for your philoxenia of my thoughts.
Amphiktyon, Greece (the author’s real name is known to
You Have a Definite Way with Words
NEW JERSEY, Sep. 26 - We received the following comment from Jill Starr, a TiM reader from New Jersey”
TiM: You have an definite way with words; direct and to the point! I like
it! Keep up the good work!”
reactions to... Capital
Punishment: Justice or Revenge?
PHOENIX, Oct. 16 - We received a number of reader responses on the subject of capital punishment, some of which we are running in this TiM Readers Forum. But first, here are results of our own poll:
in favor of the death penalty as an instrument of justice?
In other words, as unscientific as our informal polls are, the results nevertheless conform with national trends discussed in the subject article, which indicate that a majority of Americans is in favor of the death penalty.
The Bible Provides for Capital Punishment
GEORGIA, Sep. 27 - We received the following comment from Sandra Whittington, a TiM reader from Georgia (U.S., not the former Soviet Union republic):
Bible provides for capital punishment, and God's word is good enough for
me. There is a real good reason why many states without it have
lower murder rates -- they have predominantly white European population.
Not so for those with higher murder rates -- they have
disproportionately higher non-white population.”
Sandra Whittington, Georgia
- Capital Punishment
ARIZONA, Sep. 28 - We received the following comment from Bill Haynes of Arizona:
It's not often I disagree with your Bulletins, but this one cannot go
it is irrefutable that capital punishment prevents homicides.
While capital punishment may not lower homicides rates,
a criminal convicted and terminated cannot kill again. When you consider the multiples homicides many individuals
have committed--and many after having been released from
incarceration--there lies the reasonable logic for the death penalty.
Life is so precious that a life taken wantonly cries out for
retribution. Call it revenge
if you want, but a civilized nation respects life taken innocently.
the statistics on total imprisonment are meaningless as related to capital
punishment. Something like
two-thirds of U.S. prisoners are there on drug related charges.
Want to lower prison population?
forward to your next TiM Bulletin.”
Bill Haynes, Arizona
Disappointed So Few People Care
CALIFORNIA, Sep. 28 - We received the following comment from Dee Finney, a TiM reader from California:
I put up a page about the death penalty back when Gov. G.W. Bush of
Texas had the opportunity to stop the execution of Gary Graham. I was
shocked to find that this page is one of my LEAST READ pages I've ever put
up. Does this mean that
people really don't care?
of the polls on television on this topic and it seems most people are FOR
the death penalty even though it looks like way too many innocent people
are being put to death.
I don't believe that the death penalty is a good thing. Committing murder
as revenge to murder is certainly not a good thing. When you add in the
cases of innocent people dying just so the cops can convict someone, I
don't see how anyone can justify continuing this way of punishing people.
when does dying become a penalty. It's
actually a release from punishment because in death there is no pain.
Only in prison, would these people suffer for what they did.
see that prison or the death penalty does anything to prevent murder
either. Most murders are done
in passion, OR as an added adjunct to robbery.
The death penalty wouldn't even enter the minds of these kinds of
disappointed that so few people care about this.”
Dee Finney, California
Capital Punishment Demeans Society
AUSTRALIA, Oct. 3 - We received the following comment from Bill Whitney, a TiM reader from Australia:
strongly agree with your sentiments about the effectiveness of capital
punishment. It certainly does
demean society. We have not
had it for a long time in Australia (the last hanging was 40 years ago).
litigation there are always questions concerning factual evidence and
sanity that cannot be answered with absolute certainty, so an absolute
sentence is inappropriate.
TiM Ed.: Asked by the TiM editor if Australia still had the death penalty, Mr. Whitney replied that it did not. And when it did several decades ago, “it was only applied for murder,” he added.
GREECE - Violence Is Never an Answer to Anything
GREECE, Oct 1 - We received the following comment from James Lilly, a TiM reader from Greece. After you’ve read his letters to us, you will see why the following introduction was also necessary to fully comprehend his life’s philosophy:
Mr. Lilly was born in
Newcastle, England. He had a
scholarship to RMA Sandhurst (Britain's Westpoint, but rather better, we
like to think). He married
his wife, Ann, who was at Oxford. They
became Orthodox (Christians) at Oxford. Left the British Army. They
moved to Greece because they wanted to live in an Orthodox country. Now
the couple run a small (“too small!,” Mr. Lilly says) school of
English, and do translations.
“Bob, great piece on capital punishment! Of course it's absurd
to say "Killing is wrong, so I'm going to kill you".
is never an answer to anything, particularly violence as revenge. Our
beautiful, talented 21-year-old daughter and her fiancÚ were killed by a
drunken hit-and-run driver who had no licence and no insurance. We
remember him daily in our prayers. As a Christian, I really fear for the
soul of people like George Bush who are, in effect, cold-blooded serial
Buchanan is right. America shouldn't have become involved in World War II.
In the end, it's just made things worse. And look at the 'moral' bombing
of Yugoslavia. As you point out, it's all of a piece.”
Prior to running
the TiM piece on capital punishment, the TiM editor had no idea, of
course, about the terrible tragedy that had struck the Lillies.
Nor that they have taken so nobly and stoically.
So we asked our reader if he cared to elaborate some more about
what happened. He did.
Here’s his second letter:
after Katherine was killed, while we were still trying to come to terms
with her not being here, God, in His mercy, sent us the opportunity to
look after Dragan and Nada, two little refugees from Bosnia.
then, I've been up to Serbia and baptized Darinka, the youngest of Milan
and Rada's three children. It's not "compensation", but it's a
whole lot better than sitting on your backside doing nothing.
needless to say, we'd have done the same if the kids had been Croats or
Muslims. And we'd have taken them to their own church or to a mosque.
it was, Dragan served in the altar with our son, John. You should have
heard him reading the Lord's prayer in Serbian at the Liturgy on a Sunday
morning. Not a dry eye in the church!”
The following day,
Mr. Lilly added this “PS:”
the years go by, we increasingly realize that you have a fairly stark
choice in life: are you going to be a builder or a destroyer? Every time
you're faced with something bad, are you going to try and make it better
or worse? And trying to make it better means listening as well as acting?
the West had done the Serbs the courtesy of listening to their justified
fears at the beginning of the 1990's, it could not merely have avoided the
horrific mistakes it made, but might actually have contributed to a
genuine resolution of the tensions that arose post-Tito.
was the goodwill that could have provided funds and expertise to Albania
following the downfall of Hoxha (TiM
Ed.: the former communist dictator)? Instead, we
preferred to watch the pyramid-selling scam spawn the KLA, and then attach
them to our "agenda".
out for people with "an agenda", Bob. It's a substitute for a
heart.” Very best wishes.”
James and Ann Lilly, Greece